Professional CCKW owners.. this is a joke right??

[pfarber]

http://tm9ordnance.com/photo-mil-spec.asp

In this picture, Therese paints another CCKW "Tipper" in the Olive Drab Shade #8. Bob Rubino has established an experienced staff of professionals that understand the intricacies of the uniqueness of an entire range of WWII and modern Military Vehicles. A full-time welder, engine and suspension mechanic, a painter, and Jim Gilmore, long time restoration and vehicle expert round out one of the best teams in the industry.

The money shot:
These components were sandblasted and then primed with TM9 Ordnance Epoxy Primer

At what point was the CCKW ever painted with EPOXY paint, and at what point was RED OXIDE EVER USED ON THE FRAME????

Come on 'professional CCKW owners' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 'splan this to me!

[milspec]

Pfarber wrote:
I realize that this is not 'factory correct' (a single black lacquer primer coat with OD on top) but short of paying a couple hundred dollars to get the frame 100% clean I needed to set the rust in some sort of 'encapsulator' so it doesn't spread. I know.. I'm such a poser. But what I DO like is that I will have a nice, durable hardened enamel primer to paint on... that's going to last A WHILE.

There' a lot I can say.
After reading this Pfarber would sound like a hypocrite, but he's not, he's an amateur.
Amateurs do half-a#* work like priming a frame that's NOT "100% clean".
Amateurs use cheap primer products and then hope it's "some sort of 'encapsulator'".

I can then make the argument that professional shops like Mil-Spec use only the best materials, TM9's epoxy primer is a good example. Our clients expect and deserve nothing less.
I can also say the best materials are worthless unless they are accompanied by skilled professionals like we have at Mil-Spec.

As a professional restoration shop we try to get as close as possible to original but sometime have to make compromises.

Here are some points of compromise Pfarber missed.
Every vehicle we restore leaves the shop with ethanol in the fuel which is also un-leaded (except diesels).
The engines have mutiviscocity oil.
The tires on every vehicle have DOT required warnings on the side wall. Even if we could find original NOS tires we would not risk the lives of our clients.
Engines are rebuilt with hardened valve seats. Our clients don't want to come back every 20K miles for a valve job.
New oil seals are used. A modern neoprene seal beats a leaky leather seal.
And yes, we use TM9's RED EPOXY PRIMER. This ensures against another original aspect, RUST!
The only visibility these compromises have is our long list of satisfied clients.

I can go into greater detail on these points and the difference between amateurs and professionals but I won't.
Instead I'll use a phase that has served me well over the years.

"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

[pfarber]

Do it right or get pointed out for doing it wrong. It boggles the mind when 'professional' CCKW owners get into the minutia of a speedometer dial... then paint the truck with epoxy. If epoxy paint is good, then you better switch to electric water temp gauges, move to electric wiper motors, up the truck to 12 volts and install LED lights. Every single one of those things is better than what makes a CCKW an original MV... yet paint... screw it.... nothing less paint that didn't exists for 30 years after construction is suitable.

When someone googles painting a CCKW/Chevvy frame this site will pop up with the proper information, sourced and cited on how to do it. It will not contain the words 'epoxy' (well other than 'don't use epoxy paint') and will have the correct assembly steps to ensure that the rebuild followed the factory process as close as possible.

I've stated for years that epoxy paint has no purpose on a WWII vehicle. And I also have been clear that most people over-restore vehicles to the point of lunacy. I've not changed my position on that... ever.

Nice try.. you're still wrong. I know it. You know it (but will never admit it). And the best thing I say is that when I take off a bolted on part from my Chevvy/CCKW you will see that nice black paint.. JUST LIKE THE FACTORY. You will not. And that tickles me to no end.

Hugs and kisses,

Paul