Brass data plates... here's the dope

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Brass data plates... here's the dope

Postby pfarber » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:28 am

Ok, I got an NOS (yes, I held the package in my hands and read the parts tag... kicking myself for not having my camera) brass data plate (the shift plate for a CCKW with winch.

I've tried to explain for years (as well as the infamous Mr. Sunderlin) that brass plates never made it on the CCKW and here I will document it using data plates. Some (the especially the CCKW 60 year 'guru' have said these are wartime issue) have said these are wartime plates. The package I had in my hands did not have a date.

So, the brass plate, its scanned at 300dpi 24bit color.. its a very good capture.

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Here's the same plate from the 44 TM9-801 (its the same in 43 TM9, 43 TM10-1563, 42 TM10-1269)
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The comparison with the TM9 plate should be enough to prove that they are nowhere near the same.

Well, what the biggest tells other than the layout, wording and graphics? THE FONT.

The font used in almost every data plate that can be PROVEN to be installed in a CCKW is very specific... especially the E, R and Ms.

So... doubters of the zinc only data plates.... tell me how these brass data plates can *possibly* be wartime production????
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Re: Brass data plates... here's the dope

Postby pfarber » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:41 am

This brass data plate is passed as a wartime plate from olive-drab.com

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It is on not. Wrong layout, wrong font, wrong graphics.... yet its passed as 'wartime' or even more laughable 'wartime replacement'. Sure it is. On ebay maybe.
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Re: Brass data plates... here's the dope

Postby Dodge6x6 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:09 am

We have made new (1:1 copy) brass data plates for armoured vehicles and tanks last couple of years with our team BAIV.nl and ArmyVehicleMarking.com
They turned out very well!
Average production was in series of 10 pcs per brass plate.
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Re: Brass data plates... here's the dope

Postby pfarber » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:52 pm

The is a vendor in Poland that I used for my G506 plates.

I'm not sure why anyone offers brass CCKW plates... they are not wartime correct.

If you have CCKW plates please post a sample of them here... I won't mind if you gen up some sales. Heck I'll even let you put up a page or two for selling them.
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